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一点 (yīdiǎn) and 有点 (yǒudiǎn), usually pronounced 一点儿 (yīdiǎnr)
and 有点儿 (yǒudiǎnr) in northern China, all mean pretty much the same
thing—"a little" or "a bit"—but they have different uses in sentences.
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- [<span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Both Can Be
Used for Describing
Degree</span>](#Both_Can_Be_Used_for_Describing_Degree "wikilink")
- [<span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Usage
of 有点</span>](#Usage_of_.E6.9C.89.E7.82.B9 "wikilink")
- [<span class="tocnumber">1.2</span> <span class="toctext">Usage
of 一点</span>](#Usage_of_.E4.B8.80.E7.82.B9 "wikilink")
- [<span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">有(一)点
Used for Describing
Quantity</span>](#.E6.9C.89.28.E4.B8.80.29.E7.82.B9_Used_for_Describing_Quantity "wikilink")
- [<span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Negative
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- [<span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Right and
Wrong</span>](#Right_and_Wrong "wikilink")
- [<span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Example
Dialog</span>](#Example_Dialog "wikilink")
- [<span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">See
also</span>](#See_also "wikilink")
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further reading</span>](#Sources_and_further_reading "wikilink")
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### <span id="Usage_of_.E6.9C.89.E7.82.B9" class="mw-headline">Usage of 有点</span>
有点 is placed before an adjective, and it usually expresses that the
speaker doesn't want or has negative feelings about something.
A few examples:
<div class="liju">
- 我 今天 *有点* **累** 。<span class="pinyin">Jīntiān wǒmen *yǒudiǎn*
**lèi**.</span><span class="trans">I am a little tired today.</span>
- 这个 菜 *有点* **咸** 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège cài *yǒudiǎn*
**xián**.</span><span class="trans">The dish is a little
salty.</span>
</div>
### <span id="Usage_of_.E4.B8.80.E7.82.B9" class="mw-headline">Usage of 一点</span>
一点 can't be placed before an adjective. Instead, it is placed *after*
adjectives. The adjectives that can be used are particularly limited.
一点 is often used when comparing, or expressing speaker’s wish or
expectation.
A few examples:
<div class="liju">
- 请 说 **慢** *一点* 。<span class="pinyin">Qǐng shuō **màn**
*yīdiǎn*.</span><span class="trans">Please speak a little more
slowly.</span>
- **快** *点*，要 迟到 了。<span class="pinyin">**Kuài** *diǎn*, yào
chídào le.</span><span class="trans">Hurry up a bit, we're going to
be late.</span>
- 老板 ，**便宜** *点* 吧 。<span class="pinyin">Lǎobǎn, **piányi**
*diǎn* ba.</span><span class="trans">Sir, a little cheaper please.
(directed to the owner of a shop)</span>
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一点 can be placed before a noun to mean "small quantity," like
一点水，一点钱 while 有点 can't be used this way. Note that 有点 is also
a shortened form of 有一点, which means "there is a little something.
A few examples to help you understand:
<div class="liju">
- 你 脸 上 *有 一 点* **灰** 。<span class="pinyin">Nǐ Liǎn shàng *yǒu
yī diǎn* **huī**.</span><span class="trans">There's a little dirt on
your face.</span>
- 你 碗里 还 *有 点* **饭** ，吃 完 吧 。<span class="pinyin">Nǐ wǎn
lǐ hái *yǒu diǎn* **fàn**, chī wán
ba.</span><span class="trans">There's still a little rice in
your bowl. Finish eating it.</span>
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<span id="Negative_Forms" class="mw-headline">Negative Forms</span>
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You can use 不 or 没 after 有点 and before the adjective, however the
following adjective should have a positive connotation, like 高兴
(gāoxìng), 舒服 (shūfu), 喜欢(xǐhuan) etc. This makes the overall
emotion expressed feel negative still.
Some examples:
<div class="liju">
- 孩子们 *有点* **不** 喜欢 我们 的 新 家
。<span class="pinyin">Háizimen *yǒudiǎn* **bù** xǐhuan wǒmen de xīn
jiā.</span><span class="trans">Our children don't really like our
new home.</span>
- 她 *有点* **不** 舒服 。<span class="pinyin">Tā *yǒudiǎn* **bù**
shūfu.</span><span class="trans">She doesn't feel very well.</span>
- 我 *有点* **不** 相信 那 个人 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ *yǒudiǎn*
**bù** xiāngxìn nàge rén.</span><span class="trans">I don't really
believe that guy.</span>
- 我们 *有点* **没** 听懂 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒmen *yǒudiǎn*
**méi** tīngdǒng.</span><span class="trans">We didn't really
understand much.</span>
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一点 cannot be linked together directly, but can be used in the 一点也不
or 一点也没 structure to mean "[not at
all](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Not_at_all)."
A few examples:
<div class="liju">
- 这个 菜 *一点 也* **不** 辣 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège cài *yīdiǎn
yě* **bù** là.</span><span class="trans">This dish is not spicy at
all.</span>
- 作业 你 *一点 也* **没** 做 ？<span class="pinyin">Zuòyè nǐ *yīdiǎn
yě* **méi** zuò?</span><span class="trans">You didn't do your
homework at all?</span>
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<div class="liju">
- 今天 *一点* 热 。<span class="pinyin">Jīntiān *yīdiǎn* rè.</span>
- 今天 *有点* 热 。<span class="pinyin">Jīntiān *yǒudiǎn*
rè.</span><span class="trans">It's a little hot today.</span>
</div>
<div class="liju">
- 我 *一点* 饿 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ *yīdiǎn* è.</span>
- 我 *有点* 饿 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ *yǒudiǎn*
è.</span><span class="trans">I'm a little hungry.</span>
</div>
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<div class="liju">
- <span class="speaker">A:</span> 这 件 衣服 *有点* **贵** 啊
。<span class="pinyin">Zhè jiàn yīfu *yǒudiǎn* **guì**
a.</span><span class="trans">This piece of clothing is a bit
expensive.</span>
- <span class="speaker">B:</span>是 **贵** 了 *一点* ，但是 很 好看
，我 很 喜欢 。<span class="pinyin">Shì **guì** le *yīdiǎn*, dànshì
hěn hǎokàn, wǒ hěn xǐhuan.</span><span class="trans">It's a bit
expensive, but it looks really good and I like it.</span>
- <span class="speaker">A:</span> 这 件 衣服 能 不 能 **便宜** *一点*
？<span class="pinyin"> Zhè jiàn yīfu néng bù néng **piányi**
*yīdiǎn*?</span><span class="trans">Could we get this a little
cheaper?</span>
- <span class="speaker">C:</span> 不 好意思 ，不能 还价 ，*一点 也 不*
能 **便宜** 。<span class="pinyin">Bù hǎoyìsi, bù néng huánjià,
*yīdiǎn yě bù* néng **piányi**.</span><span class="trans">I'm sorry,
no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a
bit.</span>
</div>
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- [Expressing "a little too" with "you
dian"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_little_too%22_with_%22you_dian%22)
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- [Expressing "a bit
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