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= Comparing "youdian" and "yidian" =
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- Level[https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/B1_grammar_points B1]
- Similar to
- [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_little_too%22_with_%22you_dian%22 Expressing "a little too" with "you dian"] (A2)
- [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22not_at_all%22_with_%22yidianr_ye_bu%22 Expressing "not at all" with "yidianr ye bu"] (B1)
- [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22 Expressing "a bit too"] (B2)
- Used for[https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_degree Expressing degree], [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Adding_more_explanation Adding more explanation], [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_attitude Expressing attitude]
- Keywords[https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9C%89%E7%82%B9%E5%84%BF 有点儿], [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9C%89%E7%82%B9 有点], [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E4%B8%80%E7%82%B9 一点], [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E7%82%B9 点]
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== Contents ==
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* [[#Both_Can_Be_Used_for_Describing_Degree|1 Both Can Be Used for Describing Degree]]
** [[#Usage_of_.E6.9C.89.E7.82.B9|1.1 Usage of 有点]]
** [[#Usage_of_.E4.B8.80.E7.82.B9|1.2 Usage of 一点]]
* [[#.E6.9C.89.28.E4.B8.80.29.E7.82.B9_Used_for_Describing_Quantity|2 有(一)点 Used for Describing Quantity]]
* [[#Negative_Forms|3 Negative Forms]]
* [[#Right_and_Wrong|4 Right and Wrong]]
* [[#Example_Dialog|5 Example Dialog]]
* [[#See_also|6 See also]]
* [[#Sources_and_further_reading|7 Sources and further reading]]
** [[#Books|7.1 Books]]
** [[#Websites|7.2 Websites]]
* 我 今天 ''有点'' '''累''' 。I am a little tired today.
* 这个 菜 ''有点'' '''咸''' 。The dish is a little salty.
=== Usage of 一点 ===
一点 can't be placed before an adjective. Instead, it is placed ''after'' adjectives. The adjectives that can be used are particularly limited. 一点 is often used when comparing, or expressing speaker’s wish or expectation.
A few examples:
* 请 说 '''慢''' ''一点'' 。Please speak a little more slowly.
* '''快''' ''点'',要 迟到 了。Hurry up a bit, we're going to be late.
* 老板 ,'''便宜''' ''点'' 吧 。Sir, a little cheaper please. (directed to the owner of a shop)
== 有(一)点 Used for Describing Quantity ==
一点 can be placed before a noun to mean "small quantity," like 一点水,一点钱 while 有点 can't be used this way. Note that 有点 is also a shortened form of 有一点, which means "there is a little something.
A few examples to help you understand:
* 你 脸 上 ''有 一 点'' '''灰''' 。There's a little dirt on your face.
* 你 碗里 还 ''有 点'' '''饭''' ,吃 完 吧 。There's still a little rice in your bowl. Finish eating it.
== Negative Forms ==
You can use 不 or 没 after 有点 and before the adjective, however the following adjective should have a positive connotation, like 高兴 (gāoxìng), 舒服 (shūfu), 喜欢(xǐhuan) etc. This makes the overall emotion expressed feel negative still.
Some examples:
* 孩子们 ''有点'' '''不''' 喜欢 我们 的 新 家 。Our children don't really like our new home.
* 她 ''有点'' '''不''' 舒服 。She doesn't feel very well.
* 我 ''有点'' '''不''' 相信 那 个人 。I don't really believe that guy.
* 我们 ''有点'' '''没''' 听懂 。We didn't really understand much.
一点 cannot be linked together directly, but can be used in the 一点也不 or 一点也没 structure to mean "[https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Not_at_all not at all]."
A few examples:
* 这个 菜 ''一点 也'' '''不''' 辣 。This dish is not spicy at all.
* 作业 你 ''一点 也'' '''没''' 做 ?You didn't do your homework at all?
== Right and Wrong ==
* 今天 ''一点'' 热 。It's a little hot today.
* 今天 ''有点'' 热 。
* 我 ''一点'' 饿 。I'm a little hungry.
==
* 我 ''有点'' 饿 。Example Dialog ==
* A: 这 件 衣服 ''有点'' '''贵''' 啊 。This piece of clothing is a bit expensive.
* B:是 '''贵''' 了 ''一点'' ,但是 很 好看 ,我 很 喜欢 。It's a bit expensive, but it looks really good and I like it.
* A: 这 件 衣服 能 不 能 '''便宜''' ''一点'' ?Could we get this a little cheaper?
* C: 不 好意思 ,不能 还价 ,''一点 也 不'' 能 '''便宜''' 。I'm sorry, no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a bit.
== See also ==
* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_little_too%22_with_%22you_dian%22 Expressing "a little too" with "you dian"]
* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22not_at_all%22_with_%22yidianr_ye_bu%22 Expressing "not at all" with "yidianr ye bu"]
* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22 Expressing "a bit too"]
== Sources and further reading ==
=== Books ===
* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%85%AB%E7%99%BE%E8%AF%8D%EF%BC%88%E5%A2%9E%E8%AE%A2%E6%9C%AC%EF%BC%89 现代汉语八百词(增订本)] (pp. 602) [ →buy]
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* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Chinese_Grammar_-_Broken_down_into_100_items_-_Basic_and_Intermediate_Levels_(%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E8%AF%AD%E6%B3%95%E7%99%BE%E9%A1%B9%E8%AE%B2%E7%BB%83_-_%E5%88%9D%E4%B8%AD%E7%BA%A7) Chinese Grammar - Broken down into 100 items - Basic and Intermediate Levels (汉语语法百项讲练 - 初中级)] (pp. 63) [ →buy]
=== Websites ===
* Chinesegrammar.info: [http://chinesegrammar.info/general/yi-dianr-placement/ Where to place 一点儿 (yī diǎnr) in a sentence]
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