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Comparing "youdian" and "yidian"
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Level
[B1](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/B1_grammar_points)
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Similar to
- [Expressing "a little too" with "you
dian"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_little_too%22_with_%22you_dian%22) (A2)
- [Expressing "not at all" with "yidianr ye
bu"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22not_at_all%22_with_%22yidianr_ye_bu%22) (B1)
- [Expressing "a bit
too"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22) (B2)
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Used for
[Expressing
degree](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_degree),
[Adding more
explanation](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Adding_more_explanation),
[Expressing
attitude](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_attitude)
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Keywords
[有点儿](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9C%89%E7%82%B9%E5%84%BF),
[有点](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9C%89%E7%82%B9),
[一点](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E4%B8%80%E7%82%B9),
[点](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E7%82%B9)
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Contents
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- [1 Both Can Be
Used for Describing
Degree](#Both_Can_Be_Used_for_Describing_Degree "wikilink")
- [1.1 Usage
of 有点](#Usage_of_.E6.9C.89.E7.82.B9 "wikilink")
- [1.2 Usage
of 一点](#Usage_of_.E4.B8.80.E7.82.B9 "wikilink")
- [2 有(一)点
Used for Describing
Quantity](#.E6.9C.89.28.E4.B8.80.29.E7.82.B9_Used_for_Describing_Quantity "wikilink")
- [3 Negative
Forms](#Negative_Forms "wikilink")
- [4 Right and
Wrong](#Right_and_Wrong "wikilink")
- [5 Example
Dialog](#Example_Dialog "wikilink")
- [6 See
also](#See_also "wikilink")
- [7 Sources and
further reading](#Sources_and_further_reading "wikilink")
- [7.1
Books](#Books "wikilink")
- [7.2
Websites](#Websites "wikilink")
- 我 今天 *有点* **累** 。I am a little tired today.
- 这个 菜 *有点* **咸** 。The dish is a little
salty.
### Usage of 一点
一点 can't be placed before an adjective. Instead, it is placed *after*
adjectives. The adjectives that can be used are particularly limited.
一点 is often used when comparing, or expressing speaker’s wish or
expectation.
A few examples:
- 请 说 **慢** *一点* 。Please speak a little more
slowly.
- **快** *点*,要 迟到 了。Hurry up a bit, we're going to
be late.
- 老板 ,**便宜** *点* 吧 。Sir, a little cheaper please.
(directed to the owner of a shop)
有(一)点 Used for Describing Quantity
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一点 can be placed before a noun to mean "small quantity," like
一点水,一点钱 while 有点 can't be used this way. Note that 有点 is also
a shortened form of 有一点, which means "there is a little something.
A few examples to help you understand:
- 你 脸 上 *有 一 点* **灰** 。There's a little dirt on
your face.
- 你 碗里 还 *有 点* **饭** ,吃 完 吧 。There's still a little rice in
your bowl. Finish eating it.
Negative Forms
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You can use 不 or 没 after 有点 and before the adjective, however the
following adjective should have a positive connotation, like 高兴
(gāoxìng), 舒服 (shūfu), 喜欢(xǐhuan) etc. This makes the overall
emotion expressed feel negative still.
Some examples:
- 孩子们 *有点* **不** 喜欢 我们 的 新 家
。Our children don't really like our
new home.
- 她 *有点* **不** 舒服 。She doesn't feel very well.
- 我 *有点* **不** 相信 那 个人 。I don't really
believe that guy.
- 我们 *有点* **没** 听懂 。We didn't really
understand much.
一点 cannot be linked together directly, but can be used in the 一点也不
or 一点也没 structure to mean "[not at
all](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Not_at_all)."
A few examples:
- 这个 菜 *一点 也* **不** 辣 。This dish is not spicy at
all.
- 作业 你 *一点 也* **没** 做 ?You didn't do your
homework at all?
Right and Wrong
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- 今天 *一点* 热 。It's a little hot today.
- 今天 *有点* 热 。
- 我 *一点* 饿 。I'm a little hungry.
- 我 *有点* 饿 。Example Dialog
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- A: 这 件 衣服 *有点* **贵** 啊
。This piece of clothing is a bit
expensive.
- B:是 **贵** 了 *一点* ,但是 很 好看
,我 很 喜欢 。It's a bit
expensive, but it looks really good and I like it.
- A: 这 件 衣服 能 不 能 **便宜** *一点*
?Could we get this a little
cheaper?
- C: 不 好意思 ,不能 还价 ,*一点 也 不*
能 **便宜** 。I'm sorry,
no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a
bit.
See also
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- [Expressing "a little too" with "you
dian"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_little_too%22_with_%22you_dian%22)
- [Expressing "not at all" with "yidianr ye
bu"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22not_at_all%22_with_%22yidianr_ye_bu%22)
- [Expressing "a bit
too"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22)
Sources and further reading
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### Books
- [现代汉语八百词(增订本)](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%85%AB%E7%99%BE%E8%AF%8D%EF%BC%88%E5%A2%9E%E8%AE%A2%E6%9C%AC%EF%BC%89) (pp.
602) \[ →buy\]
- [现代汉语八百词(增订本)](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%85%AB%E7%99%BE%E8%AF%8D%EF%BC%88%E5%A2%9E%E8%AE%A2%E6%9C%AC%EF%BC%89) (pp.
633) \[ →buy\]
- [对外汉语教学语法释疑201例](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E5%AF%B9%E5%A4%96%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E6%95%99%E5%AD%A6%E8%AF%AD%E6%B3%95%E9%87%8A%E7%96%91201%E4%BE%8B) (pp.
172) \[ →buy\]
- [Practicing HSK
Grammar (语法精讲精炼)](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Practicing_HSK_Grammar_(%E8%AF%AD%E6%B3%95%E7%B2%BE%E8%AE%B2%E7%B2%BE%E7%82%BC)) (pp.
43)
[→buy](http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B001N6R7DI&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B001N6R7DI)
- [Chinese Grammar - Broken down into 100 items - Basic and
Intermediate Levels (汉语语法百项讲练 -
初中级)](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Chinese_Grammar_-_Broken_down_into_100_items_-_Basic_and_Intermediate_Levels_(%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E8%AF%AD%E6%B3%95%E7%99%BE%E9%A1%B9%E8%AE%B2%E7%BB%83_-_%E5%88%9D%E4%B8%AD%E7%BA%A7)) (pp.
63) \[ →buy\]
### Websites
- Chinesegrammar.info: [Where to place 一点儿 (yī diǎnr) in a
sentence](http://chinesegrammar.info/general/yi-dianr-placement/)
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