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  136. = Expressing &quot;even more&quot; with &quot;geng&quot; or &quot;hai&quot; =
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  171. [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%AF%94 比], [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9B%B4 更], [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E8%BF%98 还]
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  177. [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Even_more even more]
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  183. When used in a comparison, 更 (gèng) or 还 (hái) expresses an even higher degree of the adjective.
  184. For example, New York is America's biggest city with a population of more than 8 million. Shanghai is China's biggest city, with a population of more than 20 million. “上海比纽约人口更/还多” emphasizes that New York already has a high population (already known situation), but Shanghai's population is obviously higher.
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  197. == <span id="Structure" class="mw-headline">Structure</span> ==
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  199. Noun 1 + 比 + Noun 2 + 更 / 还 + Adj.
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  203. * 我 妹妹 ''比'' 我 '''更''' 瘦 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ mèimei ''bǐ'' wǒ '''gèng''' shòu.</span><span class="trans">My younger sister is even skinnier than me.</span>
  204. * 我 的 猫 ''比'' 我 的 狗 '''更''' 淘气 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ de māo ''bǐ'' wǒ de gǒu '''gèng''' táoqì.</span><span class="trans">My cat is even more naughty than my dog.</span>
  205. * 有时候 动物 ''比'' 人类 '''更''' 聪明 。<span class="pinyin">Yǒushíhou dòngwù ''bǐ'' rénlèi '''gèng''' cōngming.</span><span class="trans">Sometimes animals are even smarter than human beings.</span>
  206. * 大城市 的 工作 机会 ''比'' 我老家 '''更''' 多 。<span class="pinyin">Dàchéngshì de gōngzuò jīhuì ''bǐ'' wǒ lǎojiā '''gèng''' duō.</span><span class="trans">There are more job opportunities in big cities than in my hometown.</span>
  207. * 他 ''比'' 姚明 '''还''' 高 。<span class="pinyin">Tā ''bǐ'' Yáo Míng '''hái''' gāo.</span><span class="trans">He is even taller than Yao Ming.</span>
  208. * 昨天 38 度 ,今天 ''比'' 昨天'''还''' 热 。<span class="pinyin">Zuótiān sān shí bā dù, jīntiān ''bǐ'' zuótiān '''hái''' rè.</span><span class="trans">It was 38 degrees yesterday, and it's even hotter today.</span>
  209. * 这个 老外 的 汉语 说 得 ''比'' 中国人 '''还''' 地道 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège lǎowài de Hànyǔ shuō de ''bǐ'' Zhōngguó rén '''hái''' dìdao.</span><span class="trans">This foreigner speaks even more authentic Chinese than native speakers do.</span>
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  211. 还 has a more intense tone, and it usually carries a tone of surprise and skepticism. Therefore, using the form of a rhetorical question with 还 can be understood as &quot;how can it be?&quot; Note that 更 cannot be used in an interrogative tone.
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  213. * 你 ''比'' 老板 '''还''' 忙 ?<span class="pinyin">Nǐ ''bǐ'' lǎobǎn '''hái''' máng?</span><span class="trans">You're even busier than the boss?</span>
  214. * 你 ''比'' 老板 '''更''' 忙 ?<span class="pinyin">Nǐ ''bǐ'' lǎobǎn '''gèng''' máng?</span><span class="trans">You're even busier than the boss?</span>
  215. Also note that 更 can be used with 了 in this pattern, indicating change of situation or state, while 还 can't be used in this way.
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  218. * 这个 地方 ''比'' 以前 '''更''' 热闹 '''了''' 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège dìfang ''bǐ'' yǐqián '''gèng''' rènao '''le'''.</span><span class="trans">This place is even more lively than before.</span>
  219. * 这个 地方 ''比'' 以前 '''还''' 热闹 '''了''' 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège dìfang ''bǐ'' yǐqián '''hái''' rènao '''le'''.</span><span class="trans">This place is even more lively than before.</span>
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  222. * [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22 Expressing &quot;a bit too&quot;]
  223. * [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Basic_comparisons_with_%22bi%22 Basic comparisons with &quot;bi&quot;]
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  226. * [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_comparable_degree_with_%22you%22 Expressing comparable degree with &quot;you&quot;]
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