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Expressing "even more" with "geng" or "hai"
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Similar to
- [Expressing "compared with" using
"gen"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22compared_with%22_using_%22gen%22) (B1)
- [Expressing "much more" in
comparisons](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22much_more%22_in_comparisons) (B1)
- [Expressing comparable degree with
"you"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_comparable_degree_with_%22you%22) (B1)
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Used for
[Comparing](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Comparing),
[Adding more
explanation](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Adding_more_explanation),
[Expressing
degree](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_degree)
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Keywords
[比](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%AF%94),
[更](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9B%B4),
[还](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E8%BF%98)
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Translations
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more](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Even_more)
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- [1
Structure](#Structure "wikilink")
- [2
Examples](#Examples "wikilink")
- [3 See
also](#See_also "wikilink")
- [4 Sources and
further reading](#Sources_and_further_reading "wikilink")
- [4.1
Books](#Books "wikilink")
Noun 1 + 比 + Noun 2 + 更 / 还 + Adj.
Examples
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- 我 妹妹 *比* 我 **更** 瘦 。Wǒ mèimei *bǐ* wǒ
**gèng** shòu.My younger sister is even
skinnier than me.
- 我 的 猫 *比* 我 的 狗 **更** 淘气 。Wǒ de māo
*bǐ* wǒ de gǒu **gèng** táoqì.My cat is
even more naughty than my dog.
- 有时候 动物 *比* 人类 **更** 聪明 。Yǒushíhou
dòngwù *bǐ* rénlèi **gèng**
cōngming.Sometimes animals are even
smarter than human beings.
- 大城市 的 工作 机会 *比* 我老家 **更** 多
。Dàchéngshì de gōngzuò jīhuì *bǐ* wǒ lǎojiā
**gèng** duō.There are more job
opportunities in big cities than in my hometown.
- 他 *比* 姚明 **还** 高 。Tā *bǐ* Yáo Míng
**hái** gāo.He is even taller than Yao
Ming.
- 昨天 38 度 ,今天 *比* 昨天**还** 热 。Zuótiān
sān shí bā dù, jīntiān *bǐ* zuótiān **hái**
rè.It was 38 degrees yesterday, and it's
even hotter today.
- 这个 老外 的 汉语 说 得 *比* 中国人 **还** 地道
。Zhège lǎowài de Hànyǔ shuō de *bǐ* Zhōngguó
rén **hái** dìdao.This foreigner speaks
even more authentic Chinese than native speakers do.
还 has a more intense tone, and it usually carries a tone of surprise
and skepticism. Therefore, using the form of a rhetorical question with
还 can be understood as "how can it be?" Note that 更 cannot be used in
an interrogative tone.
- 你 *比* 老板 **还** 忙 ?Nǐ *bǐ* lǎobǎn **hái**
máng?You're even busier than the
boss?
- 你 *比* 老板 **更** 忙 ?Nǐ *bǐ* lǎobǎn
**gèng** máng?You're even busier than the
boss?
Also note that 更 can be used with 了 in this pattern, indicating change
of situation or state, while 还 can't be used in this way.
- 这个 地方 *比* 以前 **更** 热闹 **了** 。Zhège
dìfang *bǐ* yǐqián **gèng** rènao
**le**.This place is even more lively
than before.
- 这个 地方 *比* 以前 **还** 热闹 **了** 。Zhège
dìfang *bǐ* yǐqián **hái** rènao
**le**.This place is even more lively
than before.
See also
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- [Expressing "a bit
too"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22)
- [Basic comparisons with
"bi"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Basic_comparisons_with_%22bi%22)
- [Basic comparisons with "bu
bi"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Basic_comparisons_with_%22bu_bi%22)
- [Expressing "compared with" with
"gen"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22compared_with%22_with_%22gen%22)
- [Expressing comparable degree with
"you"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_comparable_degree_with_%22you%22)
Sources and further reading
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