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Expressing "even more" with "geng" or "hai" ===========================================
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[B1](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/B1_grammar_points)
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- [Expressing "compared with" using "gen"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22compared_with%22_using_%22gen%22) (B1) - [Expressing "much more" in comparisons](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22much_more%22_in_comparisons) (B1) - [Expressing comparable degree with "you"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_comparable_degree_with_%22you%22) (B1)
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[Comparing](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Comparing), [Adding more explanation](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Adding_more_explanation), [Expressing degree](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_degree)
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Keywords
[比](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%AF%94), [更](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9B%B4), [还](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E8%BF%98)
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[even more](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Even_more)
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When used in a comparison, 更 (gèng) or 还 (hái) expresses an even higher degree of the adjective. For example, New York is America's biggest city with a population of more than 8 million. Shanghai is China's biggest city, with a population of more than 20 million. “上海比纽约人口更/还多” emphasizes that New York already has a high population (already known situation), but Shanghai's population is obviously higher. \
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- [1 Structure](#Structure "wikilink") - [2 Examples](#Examples "wikilink") - [3 See also](#See_also "wikilink") - [4 Sources and further reading](#Sources_and_further_reading "wikilink") - [4.1 Books](#Books "wikilink")
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Noun 1 + 比 + Noun 2 + 更 / 还 + Adj.
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- 我 妹妹 *比* 我 **更** 瘦 。Wǒ mèimei *bǐ* wǒ **gèng** shòu.My younger sister is even skinnier than me. - 我 的 猫 *比* 我 的 狗 **更** 淘气 。Wǒ de māo *bǐ* wǒ de gǒu **gèng** táoqì.My cat is even more naughty than my dog. - 有时候 动物 *比* 人类 **更** 聪明 。Yǒushíhou dòngwù *bǐ* rénlèi **gèng** cōngming.Sometimes animals are even smarter than human beings. - 大城市 的 工作 机会 *比* 我老家 **更** 多 。Dàchéngshì de gōngzuò jīhuì *bǐ* wǒ lǎojiā **gèng** duō.There are more job opportunities in big cities than in my hometown. - 他 *比* 姚明 **还** 高 。Tā *bǐ* Yáo Míng **hái** gāo.He is even taller than Yao Ming. - 昨天 38 度 ,今天 *比* 昨天**还** 热 。Zuótiān sān shí bā dù, jīntiān *bǐ* zuótiān **hái** rè.It was 38 degrees yesterday, and it's even hotter today. - 这个 老外 的 汉语 说 得 *比* 中国人 **还** 地道 。Zhège lǎowài de Hànyǔ shuō de *bǐ* Zhōngguó rén **hái** dìdao.This foreigner speaks even more authentic Chinese than native speakers do.
还 has a more intense tone, and it usually carries a tone of surprise and skepticism. Therefore, using the form of a rhetorical question with 还 can be understood as "how can it be?" Note that 更 cannot be used in an interrogative tone.
- 你 *比* 老板 **还** 忙 ?Nǐ *bǐ* lǎobǎn **hái** máng?You're even busier than the boss? - 你 *比* 老板 **更** 忙 ?Nǐ *bǐ* lǎobǎn **gèng** máng?You're even busier than the boss? Also note that 更 can be used with 了 in this pattern, indicating change of situation or state, while 还 can't be used in this way.
- 这个 地方 *比* 以前 **更** 热闹 **了** 。Zhège dìfang *bǐ* yǐqián **gèng** rènao **le**.This place is even more lively than before. - 这个 地方 *比* 以前 **还** 热闹 **了** 。Zhège dìfang *bǐ* yǐqián **hái** rènao **le**.This place is even more lively than before.
See also ------------------------------------------------------- - [Expressing "a bit too"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22) - [Basic comparisons with "bi"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Basic_comparisons_with_%22bi%22) - [Basic comparisons with "bu bi"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Basic_comparisons_with_%22bu_bi%22) - [Expressing "compared with" with "gen"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22compared_with%22_with_%22gen%22) - [Expressing comparable degree with "you"](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_comparable_degree_with_%22you%22) Sources and further reading --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Books
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