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连⋯⋯都⋯⋯ (lián... dōu...) is used similarly to how ''even'' is used in English and can emphasize certain surprising pieces of information (''even'' shocking secrets!). The tricky part about using it is that you have to remember to use both parts of the pattern.

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* [[#Used_before_the_Subject|<span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Used before the Subject</span>]]
** [[#Structure|<span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Structure</span>]]
** [[#Examples|<span class="tocnumber">1.2</span> <span class="toctext">Examples</span>]]
* [[#Used_before_the_Object|<span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Used before the Object</span>]]
** [[#Structure_2|<span class="tocnumber">2.1</span> <span class="toctext">Structure</span>]]
** [[#Examples_2|<span class="tocnumber">2.2</span> <span class="toctext">Examples</span>]]
* [[#Avoidance|<span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Avoidance</span>]]
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连 + Subj. + 都 (+ 不 / 没) + Verb


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Sometimes 也 (yě) is used instead of 都 (dōu), and the two are interchangeable for this pattern, but 都 is more commonly used with 连 (lián), so it's the one we'll use exclusively here.

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* 这个 问题 太 简单 了 ，''连'' 三岁 小孩 ''都'' 知道 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège wèntí tài jiǎndān le, ''lián'' sān suì xiǎohái ''dōu'' zhīdào.</span><span class="trans">This question is so easy that even a three-year-old kid knows the answer.</span>
* 这个 汉字 太 难 了 ，''连'' 我 的 中文 老师 ''都'' '''不''' 认识 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège Hànzì tài nán le, ''lián'' wǒ de Zhōngwén lǎoshī ''dōu'''''bù''' rènshi.</span><span class="trans">This Chinese character is so difficult that even my Chinese teacher doesn't know it.</span>
* 他 很可怜 ，''连'' 他 妈妈 ''都'' '''不''' 管 他 。<span class="pinyin">Tā hěn kělián, ''lián'' tā māma ''dōu'' '''bù''' guǎn tā.</span><span class="trans">He's such a poor child. Even his mother doesn't care about him.</span>
* 她 什么 都 放 辣 ，''连'' 汤 ''都'' 是 辣的 。<span class="pinyin">Tā shénme dōu fàng là, ''lián'' tāng ''dōu'' shì là de.</span><span class="trans">She put spice in everything. Even the soup is spicy.</span>
* 你们 算 什么 好朋友 ？他 ''连'' 结婚 ''都'' '''没''' 请 你 。<span class="pinyin">Nǐmen suàn shénme hǎo péngyou, tā ''lián'' jiéhūn ''dōu'' '''méi''' qǐng nǐ.</span><span class="trans">What kind of friend are you to him? He didn't even invite you to his wedding.</span>


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Note that 都 can't be omitted in any of these sentences. You really need ''both parts of the pattern''.

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* 这个 问题 太 简单 了 ，''连'' 三岁 小孩 知道 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège wèntí tài jiǎndān le, ''lián'' sān suì xiǎohái zhīdào.</span>
* 你们 算 什么 好朋友 ？他 ''连'' 结婚 '''没''' 请 你 。<span class="pinyin">Nǐmen suàn shénme hǎo péngyou? Tā ''lián'' jiéhūn '''méi''' qǐng nǐ.</span>


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=== <span id="Structure_2" class="mw-headline">Structure</span> ===

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连 + Obj. + 都 (+ 不 / 没) + Verb


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=== <span id="Examples_2" class="mw-headline">Examples</span> ===

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* 他 什么 都 吃，''连'' 狗肉 ''都'' 吃 。<span class="pinyin">Tā shénme dōu chī, ''lián'' gǒu ròu ''dōu'' chī.</span><span class="trans">He eats everything, even dog meat.</span>
* 你 ''连'' 你 最好 的 朋友 ''都'' '''不''' 相信 ？<span class="pinyin">Nǐ ''lián'' nǐ zuìhǎo de péngyou ''dōu'' '''bù''' xiāngxìn?</span><span class="trans">You don't even trust your best friend?</span>
* 你 ''连'' 麦当劳 ''都'' 吃 不起 吗 ？<span class="pinyin">Nǐ ''lián'' Màidāngláo ''dōu'' chī bu qǐ ma?</span><span class="trans">You can't even afford a meal at McDonald's?</span>


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If the object behind 连 is a sentence, there must be a specific interrogative pronoun in the sentence.

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* 你 ''连'' 她 叫 '''什么''' ''都'' '''没''' 问 ？<span class="pinyin">Nǐ ''lián'' tā jiào '''shénme''' ''dōu'' '''méi''' wèn?</span><span class="trans">You didn't even ask what her name is? </span>
* 你 怎么了 ？''连'' 你 住 '''在 哪儿''' ''都'' '''不''' 记得 了 ？<span class="pinyin">Nǐ zěnme le? ''Lián'' nǐ zhù '''zàinǎr''' ''dōu'' '''bù''' jìde le?</span><span class="trans">Are you OK? You can't even remember where you live?</span>
* 她 是 你 女朋友 ？你 ''连'' 人家 姓 '''什么''' ''都'' '''不''' 知道 。<span class="pinyin">Tā shì nǐ nǚpéngyou? Nǐ ''lián'' rénjia xìng '''shénme''' ''dōu'' '''bù''' zhīdào.</span><span class="trans">She's your girlfriend? You don't even know what her last name is.</span>


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* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22even%22_with_%22shenzhi%22 Expressing &quot;even&quot; with &quot;shenzhi&quot;]
* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22not_even_one%22 Expressing &quot;not even one&quot;]
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