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<p>The differences between 对于 (duìyú), and 至于 (zhìyú) can be confusing. They both have similar meanings like &quot;concerning,&quot; &quot;regarding&quot; or &quot;as for.&quot; Learn what they are in this article!</p>
<h2 id="对于-emphasizes-the-object-referred-to">对于 emphasizes the object referred to</h2>
<p>对于 usually emphasizes the thing that it is pointing to. Usually where you use 对 you can use 对于.</p>
<h3 id="structure">Structure</h3>
<p>As an adverb or adverbial clause, you can place if before or after the subject. It cannot be an attributive modifier.</p>
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<p>Subj. + 对于 + Modifier + Predicate</p>
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<p>对于 + Modifier， Subj. + Predicate</p>
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<h4 id="examples">Examples</h4>
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<ul>
<li><em>对于</em> 这 种 人，就 不 该 跟 他们 讲 道理。<span class="trans">As for this kind of person, you are not supposed to reason with them.</span></li>
<li><em>对于</em> 电脑，我 什么 都 不 懂。<span class="trans">I don't understand anything about computers.</span></li>
<li>我 <em>对于</em> 电脑 什么 都 不 懂。<span class="trans">I don't understand anything about computers.</span></li>
</ul>
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<h3 id="special-conditions">Special conditions</h3>
<p>Sometimes, 关于 and 对于 don't have any differences at all, however those instances are few. For example:</p>
<h5 id="examples-1">Examples</h5>
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<ul>
<li><em>对于</em> 这个问题 ， 我没有意见 。 <span class="pinyin"><em>Duìyú</em> zhège wèntí, wǒ méiyǒu yìjiàn.</span><span class="trans">As for this problem, I don't have any ideas.</span></li>
<li><em>关于</em> 这个问题 ， 我没有意见 。 <span class="pinyin"><em>Guānyú</em> zhège wèntí, wǒ méiyǒu yìjiàn.</span><span class="trans">As for this problem, I don't have any ideas.</span></li>
<li><em>对于</em> 这个 话题，我 觉得 没什么 可 讨论 的。<span class="trans">For this topic, I don't think there is anything to be discussed.</span></li>
<li><em>关于</em> 这个话题，我觉得没什么可 讨论 的。<span class="trans">For this topic, I don't think there is anything to be discussed.</span></li>
</ul>
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<h2 id="至于-can-change-the-topic">至于 can change the topic</h2>
<h3 id="structure-1">Structure</h3>
<p>As a preposition, it points to another topic, and emphasizes changing the subject of conversation.</p>
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<p>至于 + Topic，Subj. + Verb Phrase</p>
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<h4 id="examples-2">Examples</h4>
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<ul>
<li>我们 要 开始 这 个 项目 了，<em>至于</em> 什么 时候 开始，还 没 定。<span class="trans">We're going to start this project, but we still haven't decided when.</span></li>
<li><em>至于</em> 这 个 问题，我们 还 需要 进一步 讨论。<span class="trans">For this problem, we need a further discussion.</span></li>
</ul>
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<h2 id="至于-can-also-emphasize-degree">至于 can also emphasize degree</h2>
<h3 id="structure-2">Structure</h3>
<p>As an adverb, it expresses &quot;having reached a certain degree or step.&quot; After it you can link it to words or phrases that describe degree. You can also say 至于 by itself or use 不至于.</p>
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<p>（不）至于 + Degree</p>
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<h4 id="examples-3">Examples</h4>
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<ul>
<li>这 点 小 事情，<em>至于</em> 这么 生气 吗？<span class="trans">With such a small thing, why are you so angry?</span></li>
<li>我 是 不 高兴，但 <em>不至于</em> 不 跟 你 说话。<span class="trans">I'm not happy, but not to the point that I won't talk with you.</span></li>
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<h2 id="examples-of-right-and-wrong-sentences">Examples of right and wrong sentences</h2>
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<ul>
<li>你 <em>关于</em> 这 个 问题 怎么 看？</li>
<li><em>关于</em> 这 个 问题， 你 怎么 看？</li>
<li><em>关于</em> 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？</li>
<li><em>对于</em> 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？</li>
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<h2 id="example-dialog">Example Dialog</h2>
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<ul>
<li>A: 我们 今天 的 会议 内容 是 讨论 一下 <em>关于</em> 开发 中国 市场 的 问题。<span class="trans">The content of today's meeting is a discussion about the problems in developing China's markets.</span></li>
<li>B: 我 的 意见 是 <em>对于</em> 中国 市场 我们 还 不 了解，最好 是 再 等等。<span class="trans">My opinion towards the Chinese markets is that we still don't understand. The best thing is to wait some more.</span></li>
<li>A: <em>对于</em> 是 不 是 开发 中国 市场 我们 已经 决定 了，现在 的 问题 是 什么 时候 开发。<span class="trans">We've already decided about developing the markets, the problem now is when to start.</span></li>
<li>B：那么，<em>关于</em> 这 个 议题，我 没有 什么 可 说 的 了。<span class="trans">Then, as for this topic, I have nothing more to say.</span></li>
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<h2 id="see-also">See Also</h2>
<h2 id="sources-and-further-reading">Sources and further reading</h2>
<h3 id="books">Books</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="对外汉语教学语法释疑201例" class="uri" title="wikilink">对外汉语教学语法释疑201例</a> (对于 vs 关于 p.203, 关于vs 至于 p.207) <a href="http://www.amazon.cn/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%85%AB%E7%99%BE%E8%AF%8D/dp/B001198GSW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1345693275&amp;sr=8-1">→buy</a></li>
<li><a href="现代汉语八百词（增订本）" class="uri" title="wikilink">现代汉语八百词（增订本）</a> (关于vs 对于 p.240, 至于 p.683)<a href="http://www.amazon.cn/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%85%AB%E7%99%BE%E8%AF%8D/dp/B001198GSW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1345693275&amp;sr=8-1">→buy</a></li>
<li><a href="现代汉语虚词例释" class="uri" title="wikilink">现代汉语虚词例释</a> (关于 vs 对于 p.211, 至于p.651)<a href="http://www.amazon.cn/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%85%AB%E7%99%BE%E8%AF%8D/dp/B004323J90/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1345693275&amp;sr=8-1">→buy</a></li>
<li><a href="卓越汉语－公司实战篇" class="uri" title="wikilink">卓越汉语－公司实战篇</a> (p. 98) <a href="http://www.amazon.cn/%E5%8D%93%E8%B6%8A%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD-%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%E5%AE%9E%E6%88%98%E7%AF%87-%E8%83%A1%E7%81%B5%E5%9D%87/dp/B003QZWQ6M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1347863170&amp;sr=8-1">→buy</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="dictionaries">Dictionaries</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="现代汉语词典（第5版）" class="uri" title="wikilink">现代汉语词典（第5版）</a> (关于p.501，对于 p.346，至于 p.1755) <a href="http://www.amazon.cn/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E8%AF%8D%E5%85%B8/dp/B001B1RZCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1345693609&amp;sr=8-1">→buy</a></li>
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