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一点 (yīdiǎn) and 有点 (yǒudiǎn), usually pronounced 一点儿 (yīdiǎnr) and 有点儿 (yǒudiǎnr) in northern China, all mean pretty much the same thing—&quot;a little&quot; or &quot;a bit&quot;—but they have different uses in sentences.

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* [[#Both_Can_Be_Used_for_Describing_Degree|<span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Both Can Be Used for Describing Degree</span>]]
** [[#Usage_of_.E6.9C.89.E7.82.B9|<span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Usage of 有点</span>]]
** [[#Usage_of_.E4.B8.80.E7.82.B9|<span class="tocnumber">1.2</span> <span class="toctext">Usage of 一点</span>]]
* [[#.E6.9C.89.28.E4.B8.80.29.E7.82.B9_Used_for_Describing_Quantity|<span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">有(一)点 Used for Describing Quantity</span>]]
* [[#Negative_Forms|<span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Negative Forms</span>]]
* [[#Right_and_Wrong|<span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Right and Wrong</span>]]
* [[#Example_Dialog|<span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Example Dialog</span>]]
* [[#See_also|<span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">See also</span>]]
* [[#Sources_and_further_reading|<span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Sources and further reading</span>]]
** [[#Books|<span class="tocnumber">7.1</span> <span class="toctext">Books</span>]]
** [[#Websites|<span class="tocnumber">7.2</span> <span class="toctext">Websites</span>]]


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== <span id="Both_Can_Be_Used_for_Describing_Degree" class="mw-headline">Both Can Be Used for Describing Degree</span> ==

=== <span id="Usage_of_.E6.9C.89.E7.82.B9" class="mw-headline">Usage of 有点</span> ===

有点 is placed before an adjective, and it usually expresses that the speaker doesn't want or has negative feelings about something.

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* 我 今天 ''有点'' '''累''' 。<span class="pinyin">Jīntiān wǒmen ''yǒudiǎn'' '''lèi'''.</span><span class="trans">I am a little tired today.</span>
* 这个 菜 ''有点'' '''咸''' 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège cài ''yǒudiǎn'' '''xián'''.</span><span class="trans">The dish is a little salty.</span>


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=== <span id="Usage_of_.E4.B8.80.E7.82.B9" class="mw-headline">Usage of 一点</span> ===

一点 can't be placed before an adjective. Instead, it is placed ''after'' adjectives. The adjectives that can be used are particularly limited. 一点 is often used when comparing, or expressing speaker’s wish or expectation.

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* 请 说 '''慢''' ''一点'' 。<span class="pinyin">Qǐng shuō '''màn''' ''yīdiǎn''.</span><span class="trans">Please speak a little more slowly.</span>
* '''快''' ''点''，要 迟到 了。<span class="pinyin">'''Kuài''' ''diǎn'', yào chídào le.</span><span class="trans">Hurry up a bit, we're going to be late.</span>
* 老板 ，'''便宜''' ''点'' 吧 。<span class="pinyin">Lǎobǎn, '''piányi''' ''diǎn'' ba.</span><span class="trans">Sir, a little cheaper please. (directed to the owner of a shop)</span>


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== <span id=".E6.9C.89.28.E4.B8.80.29.E7.82.B9_Used_for_Describing_Quantity" class="mw-headline">有(一)点 Used for Describing Quantity</span> ==

一点 can be placed before a noun to mean &quot;small quantity,&quot; like 一点水，一点钱 while 有点 can't be used this way. Note that 有点 is also a shortened form of 有一点, which means &quot;there is a little something.

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* 你 脸 上 ''有 一 点'' '''灰''' 。<span class="pinyin">Nǐ Liǎn shàng ''yǒu yī diǎn'' '''huī'''.</span><span class="trans">There's a little dirt on your face.</span>
* 你 碗里 还 ''有 点'' '''饭''' ，吃 完 吧 。<span class="pinyin">Nǐ wǎn lǐ hái ''yǒu diǎn'' '''fàn''', chī wán ba.</span><span class="trans">There's still a little rice in your bowl. Finish eating it.</span>


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== <span id="Negative_Forms" class="mw-headline">Negative Forms</span> ==

You can use 不 or 没 after 有点 and before the adjective, however the following adjective should have a positive connotation, like 高兴 (gāoxìng), 舒服 (shūfu), 喜欢(xǐhuan) etc. This makes the overall emotion expressed feel negative still.

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* 孩子们 ''有点'' '''不''' 喜欢 我们 的 新 家 。<span class="pinyin">Háizimen ''yǒudiǎn'' '''bù''' xǐhuan wǒmen de xīn jiā.</span><span class="trans">Our children don't really like our new home.</span>
* 她 ''有点'' '''不''' 舒服 。<span class="pinyin">Tā ''yǒudiǎn'' '''bù''' shūfu.</span><span class="trans">She doesn't feel very well.</span>
* 我 ''有点'' '''不''' 相信 那 个人 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ ''yǒudiǎn'' '''bù''' xiāngxìn nàge rén.</span><span class="trans">I don't really believe that guy.</span>
* 我们 ''有点'' '''没''' 听懂 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒmen ''yǒudiǎn'' '''méi''' tīngdǒng.</span><span class="trans">We didn't really understand much.</span>


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一点 cannot be linked together directly, but can be used in the 一点也不 or 一点也没 structure to mean &quot;[https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Not_at_all not at all].&quot;

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* 这个 菜 ''一点 也'' '''不''' 辣 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège cài ''yīdiǎn yě'' '''bù''' là.</span><span class="trans">This dish is not spicy at all.</span>
* 作业 你 ''一点 也'' '''没''' 做 ？<span class="pinyin">Zuòyè nǐ ''yīdiǎn yě'' '''méi''' zuò?</span><span class="trans">You didn't do your homework at all?</span>


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== <span id="Right_and_Wrong" class="mw-headline">Right and Wrong</span> ==

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* 今天 ''一点'' 热 。<span class="pinyin">Jīntiān ''yīdiǎn'' rè.</span>
* 今天 ''有点'' 热 。<span class="pinyin">Jīntiān ''yǒudiǎn'' rè.</span><span class="trans">It's a little hot today.</span>


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* 我 ''一点'' 饿 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ ''yīdiǎn'' è.</span>
* 我 ''有点'' 饿 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ ''yǒudiǎn'' è.</span><span class="trans">I'm a little hungry.</span>


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== <span id="Example_Dialog" class="mw-headline">Example Dialog</span> ==

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* <span class="speaker">A:</span> 这 件 衣服 ''有点'' '''贵''' 啊 。<span class="pinyin">Zhè jiàn yīfu ''yǒudiǎn'' '''guì''' a.</span><span class="trans">This piece of clothing is a bit expensive.</span>
* <span class="speaker">B:</span>是 '''贵''' 了 ''一点'' ，但是 很 好看 ，我 很 喜欢 。<span class="pinyin">Shì '''guì''' le ''yīdiǎn'', dànshì hěn hǎokàn, wǒ hěn xǐhuan.</span><span class="trans">It's a bit expensive, but it looks really good and I like it.</span>
* <span class="speaker">A:</span> 这 件 衣服 能 不 能 '''便宜''' ''一点'' ？<span class="pinyin"> Zhè jiàn yīfu néng bù néng '''piányi''' ''yīdiǎn''?</span><span class="trans">Could we get this a little cheaper?</span>
* <span class="speaker">C:</span> 不 好意思 ，不能 还价 ，''一点 也 不'' 能 '''便宜''' 。<span class="pinyin">Bù hǎoyìsi, bù néng huánjià, ''yīdiǎn yě bù'' néng '''piányi'''.</span><span class="trans">I'm sorry, no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a bit.</span>


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* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_little_too%22_with_%22you_dian%22 Expressing &quot;a little too&quot; with &quot;you dian&quot;]
* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22not_at_all%22_with_%22yidianr_ye_bu%22 Expressing &quot;not at all&quot; with &quot;yidianr ye bu&quot;]
* [https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22a_bit_too%22 Expressing &quot;a bit too&quot;]

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